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Poster: TheGreat_and_Knowledgable Date: Nov 15, 2006 5:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Hello and one question

Hello everyone. Ive been "lurking" around here as you guys like to say for about a year now. I think my young age compared to all of you intimidated me but there is a lot of positive feedback and shit i like ot read on here. I am only 17 (yes deadheads get younger and younger) and therefore i have never caught the show experience of the dead but i love listening to them. My question is kind of two part, its about Mountains of the Moon. First, I would love to download a great version of this song, probably the whole show, but I hate streaming, as I listen to my music on my Ipod. (no AUD's plz, and i can dl torrentz) 2nd part, i want to discuss the complicated lyrics to this song. Ive read the annotated lyrics page for this for awhile now yet i still understand very little. This song is some of my favorite hunter lyrics, but I dont understand them too well. Can any1 that has a good interpretation of these lyrics please share, that way i can enjoy the song even more.
---thx in advance

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 15, 2006 6:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hello and one question

Hands down one of the best versions of MOTM is the 4/5/69 Avalon show being seeded right now at shnflac:

http://www.shnflac.net/details.php?id=18417f77ca5e051b5a80ed9f3fb3ade5835717ef

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Poster: TheGreat_and_Knowledgable Date: Nov 15, 2006 6:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hello and one question

that live version looks good, ill download it, i find the DP 26 version to be not so good. Jerry's guitar is very quiet. And yes, us young generation must exist to keep the flame lit. Ive been listening ot the dead since i was 13, kinda young i assume. Maybe im too young to understand this song or come up with a good interpretation, can any1 say what they find in the words of the song

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 15, 2006 8:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hello and one question

I can see why you'd be intimidated but don't feel bad about your age. I can't speak for others here but I bet the majority will embrace anyone who embraces this great music. Actually it's way more than music. It's magic on so many levels. For me in a lot of ways it was someone speaking a language to me that I thought I only spoke until I discovered them.

I'm 35 myself and didn't see the band until 89. All in all I saw just under 30 shows. Way less than a lot of people younger than me and more than a lot of people older than me. I allways felt like a youngun myself but I got " it " and still get " it" and that's all that matters. On one hand I feel bad for anyone who loves them that never got to experience them live but on the other hand that can ruin a person. Me for instance, there are some bands I enjoy live but there isn't a one of them that can transform me like the Dead, not even close. So as a result I'm allways wishing for it but it never happens. I thought Phish was more impressive than the Dead in a lot of ways but they NEVER gave me a spiritual oneness, awakening,experience,cosmic nod, whatever " it" is, only the Dead has ever done that for me. Kimock has gotten the closest for me but even then it's just glimpses.

One of the great things about the Dead to me is the timelessness and much of that is due to the imagery Hunter creates. I've read him saying many times how he often leaves his lyrics open ended on purpose and that in turn creates a situation where the listener can kind of write the song themselves and create their own meanings. Certainly the moods these songs create on their own is very powerful in it's own right. I'd put Mts. of the Moon up with that. Baroque Dead without a doubt.

Sorry to Ramble, got a few strong IPA's in me and I LOVE the Grateful Dead.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 15, 2006 6:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hello and one question

I have this one and agree completely...good call.

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Poster: deadmax Date: Nov 15, 2006 7:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hello and one question

I too agree about not listening to Robert Hunter because he is too cryptic and I'm not sure he really remembers all of them. He is more a medium for the "Words and stories" that are out there and he just kind of channels them. Its probably more the cadence and spacing of the words and the individual interprets them that makes them worthwhile. Kind of Paints the Picture in your mind but in your own way.

Welcome O Knowlegeable one. (love the handle). As you know there is a treasure trove of useful (and useless) information here. Be humble and grow.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 15, 2006 6:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hello and one question

Here they are for purposes of discussion (below). Hunter is often cryptic, so I would not spend too much time looking for particular meaning...take it for what's worth to you...go to the following site for all the info you'll need for analysis of particular references contained in the lyrics (Dodd's site for lyrics--really thorough):

http://arts.ucsc.edu/gdead/agdl/moon.html

For live versions, you can find it on DPs 26 and the 11 Feb 69 show from fillmore East.

Enjoy!





Cold Mountain water
the jade merchant's daughter
Mountains of the Moon, Bow and bend to me
Hi ho the Carrion Crow
Folderolderiddle
Hi Ho the Carrion Crow
Bow and bend to me

Hey Tom Banjo
Hey a laurel
More than laurel
You may sow
More than laurel
You may sow


Hey the laurel
Hey the city
In the rain
Hey, hey,
Hey the white wheat
Waving in the wind


20 degrees of solitude
20 degrees in all
All the dancing kings & wives
assembled in the hall
Lost is a long & lonely time
Fairy Sybil flying
All along the all along
the Mountains of the Moon


Here is feast of solitude
A fiddler grim and tall
Plays to dancing kings and wives
Assembled in the hall
Of lost, long, lonely times
Fairy Sibil flying
All along the all along
the Mountains of the Moon


Hey Tom Banjo
It's time to matter
The Earth will see you
on through this time
The Earth will see you on
through this time


Down by the water
The Marsh King's Daughter
Did you know?
Clothed in tatters
Always will be
Tom, where did you go?


Mountains of the Moon, Electra
Mountains of the Moon
All along the
All along the
Mountains of the Moon


Hi Ho the Carrion Crow
Folderolderiddle
Hi Ho the Carrion Crow
Bow and bend to me
Bend to me



This post was modified by William Tell on 2006-11-16 02:19:16

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Poster: Telephone Toughguy Date: Nov 15, 2006 6:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hello and one question

Brian Jones?? Little Allen? Greg?

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Nov 15, 2006 6:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hello and one question

There are some 1969 torrents at SHNFLAC.net. Check the posted setlists for Mountains of the Moon...

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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Nov 15, 2006 6:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hello and one question

Yes! finally someone younger than I. It really makes me happy to see my generation grasping and taking in historical culture like this.. I mean.. after all.. it is you and I who keep the flame lit, you know? Well.. enjoy your stay!

-max


edit: william tell: he said he got the annotated lyrics off dodd's site already i think

This post was modified by Max Chorak on 2006-11-16 02:33:47